Tall Armenian Tale - Quotes (part 1)
All Turkish children also should be killed as they form a danger to the Armenian nation
Hamparsum Boyaciyan, nicknamed "Murad," a former Ottoman parliamentarian who led Armenian guerilla forces, ravaging Turkish villages behind the lines, 1914. Cited from Mikael Varandean, "History of the Dashnaktsutiun."
(Alternately known as "History of the A.R.Federation" ["H. H. Dashnaktsutyan Patmutiwn," Paris,1932 and Cairo,1950]. The author [1874-1934] has other works, including "L'Arménie et la Question Arménienne," noted in the library as "Delegation propaganda authenticated by the Armenian delegation at the Paris Peace Conference, 1919"])
This quote does not exist, neither in the first volume, neither in the second, of the aforementioned work. Not only does it not exist on page 85 of those two volumes, but it doesn't exist anywhere in those two books. Another example of falsification.
"I killed Muslims by every means possible. Yet it is sometimes a pity to waste bullets for this. The best way is to gather all of these dogs and throw them into wells and then fill the wells with big and heavy stones. as I did. I gathered all of the women, men and children, threw big stones down on top of them. They must never live on this earth."
A. Lalayan, Revolutsionniy Vostok (Revolutionary East) No: 2-3, Moscow, 1936. (Highly deceptive Armenian activists on the Internet are spreading rumors there is no Lalayan. The above quote has been confirmed. Lalaian was an Armenian Soviet historian and the Dashnag report above was first published in issue 2-3 of the magazine, Revolyutsionniy Vostok and then in issue 2 of Istoricheskie Zapisky, the organ of the USSR Academy of Sciences, Institute of History, The above quote is from a proud Dashnag officer, Aslem Varaam, in the report he wrote from the Beyazit-Vaaram region in 1920, Updated translation:: “I exterminated the Turkish population in Bashar-Gechar without making any exceptions. One sometimes feels the bullets shouldn’t be wasted. So, the most effective way against these dogs is to collect the people who have survived the clashes and dump them in deep holes and crush them under heavy rocks pressed from above, not to let them inhabit this world any longer. So I did accordingly. I collected all the women, men and children and extinguished their lives in the deep holes I dumped them into, crushing them with rocks.”)
Whom was this Lalayan, no one knows, I have never been able to find the Russian source of this alleged quote, and more, the Turks have three versions of this quote, one with the word Turk, another with the word Turk and in parentheses the word Azeris, and this one with the word Muslim. Lalayan position, is nowhere documented, I have tried to find anything without success. From the only reference given, and I think from one of Hovannessians book, since I took a note of this information in a text file I was able to keep(I have lost the rest of the information regarding this, with my other HD that died), according to the work, Lalayan was a close friend of Shaumian, the traitor and Bolshevicwhom participated in the inst oration of Bolshevism and whom sold countless numbers of Armenians to the Red Army getting them killed. Probably the reason why he is mentioned nowhere was because unlike what denialists claims, he wasn't an Armenian hero, but a Bolshevic one, which will explain why anyway to find and located the only source gave no result, and the title of the source itself seems to be a Bolshevic periodical about Heros of the Bolshevic revolution. -- Fadix
"When we arrived at Zeve, the village couldn't be passed through because of its stench. It was as if the bones in our noses would fall off... There were bodies everywhere. We saw a weird scene on the threshold of one house: they had filled the house with Muslims and burned it, and so many people had been burnt that the fat that had oozed from under the threshold had turned back into the trench in front of the door. That is, it was as if the river of fat had risen and later receded. The fat was still fresh. The entire village had been destroyed and was in this situation. I saw this with my own eyes, and I'll never forget it. We heard that they did the same thing to the Muslims on Carpanak Island. The Armenians told me about the latter; I did not see it for myself.”
Haci Osman Gemicioglu, an Armenian-Turk (having converted to Islam) who eyewitnessed the 1915 Zeve massacre; as told to Huseyin Celik, during interviews conducted in the late 1970s-early 80s.
Interviews such as this of said witnesses popping up after 60 years, can hardly be presented as evidences. First of all, whom is to confirm that he is an Armenian having been converted to Islam? Anyone can come up with such stories that in no way can be confirmed. Where are the Armenians living in Zeve, there is not a single Armenian left there. If Armenians were the aggressors, how come in all the region where it is said by people of your ilk that Armenians were the aggressors there are not a single Armenian presence recorded. All gone.
There is no such thing as an Armenian Turk; ethnicity is a social construct, once an Armenian assimilate he become a Turk, as much as a Turk as any other Turk. There is no way to confirm this “witness” story, and more to this, he himself admit not having seen anything having been done.
There was many Armenians living in Zeve, they all disappeared, in fact, nearly none of the Armenians from Zeve survived, there are stories of mass burning. (The same ways as the other mass burnings witnessed and written by the Jewish intellectuals forming the Nili group)
Firstly, this man came there and seen bodies, burning bodies etc. he claims Armenians told him this later, but there was ZERO Armenian left in Zeve, they could not have said anything. The same goes with Carpanak, all the Armenians from this Island, ALL were butchered, burned, drawn etc.
And finally, whom is to tell that this man is really an Armenian that has converted to Islam?
"Only 1,500 Turks remain in Van"
The Gochnag, an Armenian newspaper published in the United States, May 24,1915 ... in a proud report documenting the slaughter of the Turkish citizenry of Van. (Holdwater: this Internet quote needs to be verified. The date is wrong; the closest issues for the weekly are from May 22 and May 29. The origin evidently was a 1982 publication from Ankara's Institute of Foreign Policy, entitled "Ermeni Sorunu [Armenian Question], 9 soru 9 cevap," page 23. Guenter Lewy states on p. 98 of his 2005 "Disputed Genocide" book that 3,000 Muslims were left in Van.)
Not only this quote does not exist, but there was even no Gochnak issue published in May 24, 1915, the only issue published in May that was saying anything relevant about Van was published in May 15,(1915) and was about the Turkish attacks in Van, and the Turkish invasion of the Persian Province of Salemaste, and Armenians being targeted.
"Thousands of Armenians from all over the world, flocked to the standards of such famous fighters as Antranik, Kery, Dro, etc. The Armenian volunteer regiments rendered valuable service to the Russian Army in the years of
Kapriel Serope Papazian, Patriotism Perverted, Boston Baker Press, 1934, pg. 38
Yeah...so? Thousands of Jews joined various armies in the fight against Germany in WW2 - does this justify the Holocaust?
"With the decline of Ottoman power, and the formalization of tyranny, the spirit of the Zeitun mountaineers remained alert. The government launched a number of expeditions against the town, but these were unsuccessful. The warrior spirit of its armed inhabitants, and its fortress-like setting, made Zeitun a natural focus for the attention of a nationalist or revolutionary, who had seen the success of the revolts in Greece and Serbia. Perhaps a similar success could be gained in Cilicia..."
(Christopher J. Walker, Armenia, The Survival of a Nation, Croom Helm, London / St. Martin's Press, N. Y., 1980, pp. 100-101).
"I have it from absolute first-hand information that the Armenians in the Caucasus attacked Tartar (Muslim) villages that are utterly defenseless and bombarded these villages with artillery and they murder the inhabitants, pillage the village and often burn the village."
Admiral Mark Bristol, Bristol Papers, General Correspondence: Container #32: Bristol to Bradley Letter of September 14, 1920.
Caucasus, and not Ottoman Empire, in 1920 and not 1915, villages, and not cities. Typical Tartar villages populations were inhabitated by dozens of people. Besides, Bristol implication in the Chester concession is well documented, as well as his attempt to bar access to new report of Armenian massacres. In 1924, after that the Chester concession was rejected by the Kemalist forces, and that he had no reason to hide the destiny of the Armenians, he wrote regarding the way the Armenians were destroyed, and he has accused the Ottoman government. This same man has forced witnesses of the Smyrna fire to change their versions and accuse the Greeks and Armenians, when before his intervention, they were reporting completely else.
"The Moslems who did not succeed in escaping [the city] were put to death..."
Grace H. Knapp, The Tragedy of Bitlis, Fleming H. Revell Co., New York (1919) , page 146.
What a pathetic attempt to add the “[city],” as to suggest that the book title regarding suggest the tragedy of Muslim in Bitlis “city,” when the tragedy in question that Knapp describe in detail is the destruction of the Armenian community in Bitlis. I don't have the book on hand right now, I've read it a year or some, but I will check regarding this quote as soon as possible.
"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Tartars (Turks), and then proceeded in the work of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts into heaps of stones and dust, and when the villages became untenable and the inhabitants fled from them into the fields, bullets and bayonets completed the work."<br'
Ohanus Appressian, describing incidents in 1919; Memoirs of an Armenian officer, Men are Like That, 1926.
I have reviewed this book countless numbers of times, the man was on the region for 8 years, claimed not knowing any languages to communicate with “Ohanus,” and whom communicated through pantomime's, and later he learned the language, but still after 8 years, he could not spell Ohannes. More so, when “Ohanus,” during the Bolshevic revolution according to the book, was in “extase” listening to bolshevic songs, and how his story was about how Tartars and Armenians in the Caucasus(NOT Ottoman) could not govern a nation, and that they needed Communism as regime to become brothers. (the Book takes time to talk about the incidences of 1905-6, in Tartar and Armenian villages, Ohanus village is now a part of Azerbaijan, and not a single Armenian live there). The book itself has more a tone of a novel, and a tool to turn the Americans public attention away from the American promises to secure an Armenia, by suggesting that Bolshevism was the only right way. Oh and, the 1905-6 incidences, that revisionists quote from the book, even McCarthy uses the British consul Stevens report, in which, more Armenians than Tartars died(900 Armenians and 700 Tartars). Yet, apologists that have nothing in their hands, uses such works unrelated with the genocide to fool ignorants.
"This three-day massacre by Armenians is recorded in history as the 'March Events' and thousands of Muslims, old people, women and children lost their lives."
F. Kazemzadeh, The Struggle for Transcaucasia (New York, 1951), p. 69. (This excerpt refers not to Armenian atrocities against Ottoman Turks, but to "Tartar" (derogatory for "Tatar") Turks, when Armenia attacked Azerbaijan in 1918. Regarding this period of March 30 to April 1 1918, Vladimir Lenin said that commissar S. Shaumyan, the chief architect of the massacres throughout Azerbaijan, “turned Baku into an Armenian operated henhouse [slaughterhouse].” According to Justin McCarthy's “Death and Exile," "Between 8,000 and 12,000 Muslims were killed in Baku alone.…”)
Oh sure, the same Kazemzadeh(the butcher), quote on page 143, an Armenian commission, which report 9,000 Armenians having been killed in Baku, and presented this as revenge against a prior said massacre. The 8,000 to 12,000 figure was pooped by Urquhart, the British side of the oil interest, from unreferenced numbers presented by the Tartars to justify the massacre of Baku. I guess Armenians were so powerful in the region, they managed to commit massacres from Istanbul to Baku. We're such a monster.
“As the Armenians found support among the Reds (who regarded the Tartars as a counter-revolutionary elements) the fighting soon became a massacre of the Tartar population”
W. E. D. Allen and Paul Muratoff, “Caucasian Battlefields”, Cambridge University Press, 1953, p. 481
Tartars, not Ottoman Turks! --ArmoLite
"Many massacres were committed by the Armenians until our army arrived in Erzurum... (after General Odesilitze left) 2,127 Muslim bodies were buried in Erzurum's center. These are entirely men. There are ax, bayonet and bullet wounds on the dead bodies. Lungs of the bodies were removed and sharp stakes were struck in the eyes. There are other bodies around the city."
Official telegram of the Third Royal Army Command, addressed to the Supreme Command, March 19, 1918; ATASE Archive of General Staff, Archive No: 4-36-71. D. 231. G.2. K. 2820. Dos.A-69, Fih.3.
This is 1918...revenge attacks...I think we already said that these occured (again this is post Armenain Genocide and is the actions of individuals - not a government) - interesting that the report says that the victims were entirely men...so women and children were sparred it seems...doesn't this violate some manifest that you posted earlier? --THOTH
"There is little news from the interior save that the Russians have entered Van. The contingent is mostly composed of Armenian volunteers who fight with desperate courage, but whose excesses have shocked even the Russian commanders."
Lewis Einstein, "Inside Constantinople – A [Diplomat's] Diary During the Dardanelles Expedition, April-September, 1915,". 1917, p. 68; John Murray, London. The book is a daily recording of what Einstein saw, heard, received and possibly imagined with cleverly inserted passages on the Armenian massacres. Curiously, Ambassador Morgenthau is not mentioned at all.
What excesses ? Against Turkish troops sent by a murderous government ?
"The Armenians did exterminate the entire Muslim population of Russian Armenia as Muslims were considered inferior to the Armenians by the prominent leaders of the Dashnaks."
Mikael Kaprilian, Armenian revolutionary leader, in Yerevan, 1919.
Newsgroup fabricated quote. --Fadix
"In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul."
Sahak Melkonian, Preserving the Armenian Purity, 1920
Another newsgroup fabrication.
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